She was always trying to make meaning of her life and so while she cared about her grandchildren it was so important to her to make meaning of her life you know? She would go off and would do prison ministry and she moved out she would just you know, the feeling was really important for her that her life mean something to her. So, in some ways she wasn’t traditional in that way. She didn’t learn to drive until she was like almost in her sixties or so. She was a nurse and one of her private clients gave her a car and so she learned to drive and then she just went everywhere.

My grandmother was not a good cook, but she wanted to because she thought as a grandmother she should be but she really wasn’t. But she would try because her mother was a good cook but she would try because she wanted to be a good grandma and she thought that was part of it. But, I think I was more moved that she would write poetry. She was the first woman I knew who was a writer, who I knew. She would write poetry and she would get her own book published. She would write songs and sit at the organ and play them and sing them. She would them to folks at church. There are still people throughout the community that she last lived in who are singing songs that she wrote and I just love that. I just love that.

Sara: That’s beautiful

Natalie: And she loved God and so that’s how she gave her life meaning.

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